When we have these conversations, it's 16 wise individuals from different walks of life that are feeding us this information. We're bouncing back information at the dinner table or in the studio or at his house, and we're learning from each other as well. So what inspired you to make this big wide-ranging track about the G.O.O.D. Music fallout? Well, one, I miss my brothers and I miss the camaraderie we had. It’s crazy—I told my mom that a hat that costs $1.75 tore down our whole empire and we lost $11 billion. And he made his. He didn't even get his through Trump. But when you think about how many of his friends turned their backs on him, or people challenged him about it. I've seen some people that he made multi-millionaires… If I'm worth $50 million, $75 million, and you put on a Ku Klux Klan hat, I don't give a fuck what kind of hat it is. You've done so many beautiful things in my life that this one thing can't deter me from loving you. If you're having a different opinion politically, I'm not going to turn my back on you. But he lost his family, his money, his Adidas deal, his children, his best friends, his label. So you've got to think what that would do to an individual, especially someone like him, that's so passionate and loving about all people. Ye is somebody who don’t like seeing people getting bullied, because he had to stand up to his bullies as a child. So now, when he see a gay person getting bullied, he's going to come stand in front of them. When he sees Trump supporters getting bullied, he's going to stand in front of that. When he sees Black people get bullied by Bush, he is going to say, "Bush don't care about Black people." It just ain't his time to take up for you at this moment. It's other people in the world that he feels like, I want to speak on this because I don't like the way these people are being treated. He'd take the bullet for a lot of different concepts and a lot of different groups of people that may have a different opinion than what the masses may feel. And that gets him in trouble a lot of times. It’s funny: When I told Quentin Miller how much Ye paid me as a songwriter—when he told me what Drake pays him, he couldn't fucking believe how polar opposite it was. He's like, "I never thought a writer could even make that much." [Ye’s] going to work you to death now, but he's going to make sure you're well-compensated for your work. That's just the type of person he is. Has anybody mentioned in the song reached out since it dropped? Some of the internal guys. [Big] Sean liked the song. But me and Sean had [already had] that conversation [in person]. Push is my guy. It's still early, maybe when I run into people we'll have a conversation, but that's just how I interpreted the situation and how I feel like we all were manipulated, or people were told to go against him for obvious reasons. This is another thing I want to say: A dude is so powerful that those higher-ups see him taking up that market share and say, “How can we take a block out of his Jenga castle to make this collapse? We’ll offer the guys under him an amount of money that they can't refuse.” So now you're weakening your competition because you're pulling from his entourage. "Hey, you're around him. You kind of know the ideas he wants to come up with. How about I offer you 20 million and you get the position?" Hell yeah, I'm going. Not me personally. But it's hard for people to turn that type of money down. So that's where a lot of that tension and resentment comes from from him. It's just like, "I'm doing this for us, and y'all doing it for y'all's selves."